What makes for good dirty talk? (~in fic)

[birdsofshore]

I had an idea for a story and it would probably involve a lot of dirty talking and general filthiness. Then I realised that this is something I really struggle with.

What, in your opinion, makes dirty talking hot in fic? Are there things that just don't work for you when you're reading it? What is your favourite kind to read? Have you got a favourite story that involves dirty talk? And, if you're a writer, can you give me any tips? Because I sort of stink at it. I do try, because I know it's great when it works, but I usually fail and have to be bailed out by a beta. I got several compliments on a filthy line in a recent fic and it was actually raitala's doing, LOL.

I even feel awkward READING dirty talk, often, because I'm not always sure how I feel about people calling each other slut and so on, and I'm not fond of porny descriptions of dripping holes. So I basically need a Dirty Talk primer. Can you help? Thank you!

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[birdsofshore]

The dirty talk will either be a natural outpouring of your already churning enthusiasm for the story or it'll turn out not to *need* dirty talk or just a smidgeon of it or other multitudes of outcomes.

Yes, I agree! This is great advice. I think I just feel a bit inhibited about dirty talk and having a couple of pointers to focus on if I feel 'stuck' or lacking in confidence, will really help. For instance, a lot of people have said that it's the other person's reaction that does it for them. If I'm worried that my lines are not effective enough, I can add in more reaction from the listener, and that could really help.

It also came up that silly, awkward dirty talk could even be OK. That was definitely helpful! Do you remember that line, "I am, I'm going to come all over your jeans"? LOL! We both really liked that one, if I remember. But it was actually sort of ridiculous. So that also frees me up, to remember that a line can be silly or dorky and still be sort of hot.

I was never planning to do it by numbers, don't worry. I just need a few nudges in the right direction, and a little sharpen of the things I *do* have in my toolbox. I've enjoyed everyone's ideas very much!

[lq-traintracks.livejournal.com]

After I wrote this, I felt like the fucking Grinch who stole dirty-talk Christmas! Sorry about that. :-P

I totally agree that the listener's response is at least half the hotness!

And yeah, there have been plenty of times when I've been reading and the dirty talk was suddenly sort of funny or sweet or both but it was STILL a turn on. What's the jeans one from?? Something very recent, yes? I do remember loving that!

Really, depending on the fic, I can find lots of versions of dirty talk hot: humiliation, virginal fumbling dialogue, similes ("I'm going to fuck you like __." "God, your arse is ___ as ___."), etc.

I'm really glad you've gotten some good inspiration from people. (And that you don't think I suck too bad for not giving my own.)

[birdsofshore]

Oh, you gave loads of good advice! Really. I've just emailed you, as well, because I wanted to say something specific about that fic I sent you. Your advice really rang true there, and I'm going to remember it.

The jeans was from, what's it called, This Unstoppable Thirst. With the sex potion, and Draco says, 'I'm going to come." Harry says "no you're not," and Draco says "Yes I am, I'm going to come all over your jeans." *snort*