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birdsofshoreI have so many questions about this. We all know that you can't Apparate into Hogwarts. But what are the ways you CAN get in?
1) If you arrive at the gates unexpectedly, can you get a message to the Castle to ask to be let in (a Patronus?)? Is there a bell or something? Or do you only get in if you're an expected (and welcome) guest?
2) Beauxbatons and Durmstrang were able to fly and sail to Hogwarts - was this because they were expected? Did Dumbledore lower the wards? Or can anyone just fly over the walls and get in? (with a broom, a flying motorbike, a thestral, a dragon?) Could anyone just swim across the Lake and get in?
3) Do the boundary walls go all the way round and enclose the Forbidden Forest? Maps like this seem to suggest they do:
Or are there ways to sneak in via the Forbidden Forest?
4) House-elves can Apparate into Hogwarts - could a house-elf bring a person in by Side-Along Apparition?
5) Are there any other ways in? There are the 3 tunnels Harry knows of (do these all lead to Hogsmeade?) Do we know how long it takes to walk from Hogsmeade to the Whomping Willow? I know Fred and George say there are other tunnels that Filch doesn't know about, too.
This started off as research for a fic, and now I'm just curious. I'd love to know your thoughts - backed up with canon if at all possible :)
Thank you ♥
1) If you arrive at the gates unexpectedly, can you get a message to the Castle to ask to be let in (a Patronus?)? Is there a bell or something? Or do you only get in if you're an expected (and welcome) guest?
2) Beauxbatons and Durmstrang were able to fly and sail to Hogwarts - was this because they were expected? Did Dumbledore lower the wards? Or can anyone just fly over the walls and get in? (with a broom, a flying motorbike, a thestral, a dragon?) Could anyone just swim across the Lake and get in?
3) Do the boundary walls go all the way round and enclose the Forbidden Forest? Maps like this seem to suggest they do:
Or are there ways to sneak in via the Forbidden Forest?
4) House-elves can Apparate into Hogwarts - could a house-elf bring a person in by Side-Along Apparition?
5) Are there any other ways in? There are the 3 tunnels Harry knows of (do these all lead to Hogsmeade?) Do we know how long it takes to walk from Hogsmeade to the Whomping Willow? I know Fred and George say there are other tunnels that Filch doesn't know about, too.
This started off as research for a fic, and now I'm just curious. I'd love to know your thoughts - backed up with canon if at all possible :)
Thank you ♥
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Date: 2014-10-21 01:06 pm (UTC)Thank you for mentioning when Dumbledore adjusted the watds so he and Harry could get in. I don't remember that.
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Date: 2014-10-21 01:43 pm (UTC)I feel like saying that overall it's hard to get in but there are plenty of ways you could get in, if you follow me. Yes, no one can Apparate but besides that, it seems a bit of a free for all.
Oh, and I thought all the tunnels had been listed at some point (HP Lexicon: There are at least eight secret passages that run between the school and Hogsmeade (PA10), all but two of which were built for reasons unknown (PA18, DH29)).
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Date: 2014-10-21 02:31 pm (UTC)Yup. This confuses me. The Vanishing Cabinets seem such a long-winded way to sneak people in.
I wasn't sure the tunnels were ever listed... But your link was v helpful:
Four secret passageways that Filch knows about
Not all of these passages necessarily lead to Hogsmeade, though "most of them" probably do. Regardless, nobody can use them, because Filch keeps watch over them (PA10). One of these is behind a statue of Gregory the Smarmy"> (PS9)
"Gregory the Smarmy" always makes me laugh :D
I reckon this leaves things open for further passageways to exist. As many as we want to, really.
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Date: 2014-10-21 02:57 pm (UTC)Rather like the entire plot of GOF and the Polyjuice. Yes, in ten months, no one ever got a clue. :P
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Date: 2014-10-21 01:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-10-21 02:26 pm (UTC)I haven't read HBP in entirety for a long time because it just KILLS me. ;_;
Thank you very much for checking for me.
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Date: 2014-10-24 08:11 am (UTC)On another note, could those "can't enter" enchantments be turned inwards so that the students couldn't leave in Year 7, so the resistance holed up in the RoR, to avoid the worst? They certainly blocked all 7 hidden passageways.
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Date: 2014-10-26 07:36 pm (UTC)no subject
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