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I was just searching for info on the Notice-Me-Not charm, and there isn't any, because it's a FANON INVENTION. NOOO! Really? The first webpage I found where someone was asking about it, had some smartarse saying "I think you'll find that's just a sad FAN FICTION thing, you poor deluded fool", I was smirking away: "heh, that's what you think, I have seen it in LOADS OF.....er.... loads of fics. Err. Ahem."

Did you all know this? Who made it up? What other fanon things have become so widespread that they can fool us like this? I know about Tempus, but can you tell me any others?

Date: 2013-06-16 02:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] vaysh
No Glamours in canon. Otherwise you would not need the Disillusionment Charm or Polyjuice.

Date: 2013-06-16 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mab.livejournal.com
The only thing that is sort of iffy about that in canon, is when Hermione altered Ron's appearance in DH, so they could get into Gringott's with her posing as Bellatrix, as they were out of Polyjuice... Still I suppose that's more of a Transfiguration than a Charm... so couldn't be called a Glamour.

Interesting subject.

Date: 2013-06-16 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kedavranox.livejournal.com
Hmm. I think they're about the same really.

In fanfic, a glamour transfigures some particular features to look a certain way. Not much difference, except fanon found fun cool way to refer to it --glamomurs.

Date: 2013-06-16 05:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] vaysh
Oh, I totally forgot about that. *must re-read but don't have time right now*

The word Glamour, I am sure, comes straight out of vampire fic. ;)

Date: 2013-06-16 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talithan.livejournal.com
Actually, in DH when they go to Gringotts, Hermione alters Ron's appearance with her wand (as they only have enough Polyjuice left for her, and Harry is under his cloak). That and the reference to changing eyebrow colors in Charms in HBP are enough to make me consider glamour charms pretty canon. Perhaps not quite the way they are used in fic, but not 100% fanon. It seems Polyjuice is just a lot more effective if you want to be completely unrecognizable.

Date: 2013-06-16 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talithan.livejournal.com
It is pretty brilliant! The one thing I'm sometimes afraid of in fic when it's used a lot is that they'll somehow run into the person whose hair they stole (though not actually likely, but it's a risk!). Like in Reparations when the trio uses it when going out for drinks, or in The Boy Who Only Lived Twice when they use it pretty constantly. I'm sure the people they're being aren't people they're likely to cross paths with, but I always think of it anyway. And the risk of turning back into yourself if you don't keep dosing! So I like to consider appearance-altering charms as well.

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