Don't get your wand_in_a_knot
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birdsofshoreI am SO EXCITED about the new Harry Potter 24 hour porn challenge!![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
wand_in_a_knot is a multi-shipping comm, inspired by similar challenges in other fandoms and I'm so glad that the fabulous ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
writcraft and vaysh are holding one for HP. Participants get tagged on a random day during the month and have 24 hours to create an R or NC-17 rated fanwork. If you can't manage to complete the challenge in 24 hours, the baton just passes to another participant and there are no penalties, so although it's fast and exciting, it's also hopefully low-stress. And will provide the fandom with lots of super-speedy smut. ♥
(don't get your)wand_in_a_knot –
the 24 Hours Harry Potter Porn Tag Challenge!
– Sign-ups start Sunday, May 1 –
I'm really hoping to get a spot when sign ups open tomorrow. Will you be signing up? Considering it? Nervous? Excited? Please join up anyway! Most of us are entirely new to this sort of challenge, so we can all muddle through in a big flail of nerves and squee together!
Even if you're not signing up, please watch the comm so you can enjoy the fun during May. \o/
I also saw some discussion onkerrilee75's LJ about ratings, and I thought it might be interesting to talk about, both in general, and specifically for wand_in_a_knot where all submissions have to be R or NC-17.
The MPAA ratings wiki has some clear guidance on content for different ratings.
The thing I find hardest to rate is when there is sex but it isn't very explicit. However, my simplest answer to this is to ONLY write explicit sex, heh. But in general, I think if it's clear sex is taking place but there's only some undressing or light groping with a fade to black or a sort of euphemistic description such as "they found release together", I would think that was probably a PG-13. I would say in art this was the equivalent of bodies under the bedclothes. If the sex is described more clearly, eg some mention of what act occurred, some mention of hard cocks, etc, I would say it's an R. In art I would imagine the bedcovers are now off, and you can tell what's occurring, but not explicitly see erect cocks or vaginas or arseholes or a blow job or cunnilingus or whatever is happening. If however there's a description of a cock or a vagina (rather than a brief mention), a description of ejaculation, a description of penetration, or rimming, or oral sex, or whatever sex act, and these contain any details, I would say that's a NC-17. In art, if you can SEE erect penises, or vaginas, or penetration, or ejaculation, or oral sex, etc, and it's not obscured by a hand or a body position or artful hair placement etc, I think that's NC-17.
So, to give an example using wanking (I wrote these examples for this purpose, please don't point and laugh :D):
Harry felt quite hot and bothered after seeing Malfoy's pale arse in the showers. When he got into bed that night, he didn't keep his hands above the covers.
In my opinion, that is PG-13. We all know what's happening, but nothing is explicitly described. Draco is naked, but it's not described in detail and he's showering, not in a sexual situation. However:
Harry's trousers suddenly seemed far too tight as he watched Malfoy smooth soap lovingly over the curves of his arse. Back in the dorm, Harry Summoned lube and quickly brought himself off.
I would say that's an R. There's an erection now, Malfoy's nudity is more sexually-oriented, and there's no doubt that Harry masturbates.
PURELY FOR SCIENCE, I wrote an NC-17 version as well.
Harry's cock throbbed, trapped against the zip of his jeans as he watched Malfoy run a soapy finger along the cleft of his arse. That night, lights out couldn't come soon enough. Harry let out a low groan of pleasure as his slick hand grasped the hot length of his cock, stroking slow and firm until he came to a juddering climax all over the sheets.
I feel FAIRLY SURE that's NC-17. But maybe I should continue? Just to be sure. ;)
Those are my opinions. What do you think? Is the MPAA guide useful? And what on earth should happen if there's a kink or other taboo acts involved? Does that change the rating? I look forward to hearing your thoughts, even if you don't agree with me.
wand_in_a_knot is a multi-shipping comm, inspired by similar challenges in other fandoms and I'm so glad that the fabulous writcraft and vaysh are holding one for HP. Participants get tagged on a random day during the month and have 24 hours to create an R or NC-17 rated fanwork. If you can't manage to complete the challenge in 24 hours, the baton just passes to another participant and there are no penalties, so although it's fast and exciting, it's also hopefully low-stress. And will provide the fandom with lots of super-speedy smut. ♥(don't get your)
wand_in_a_knot –the 24 Hours Harry Potter Porn Tag Challenge!
– Sign-ups start Sunday, May 1 –
I'm really hoping to get a spot when sign ups open tomorrow. Will you be signing up? Considering it? Nervous? Excited? Please join up anyway! Most of us are entirely new to this sort of challenge, so we can all muddle through in a big flail of nerves and squee together!
Even if you're not signing up, please watch the comm so you can enjoy the fun during May. \o/
I also saw some discussion on
kerrilee75's LJ about ratings, and I thought it might be interesting to talk about, both in general, and specifically for wand_in_a_knot where all submissions have to be R or NC-17.The MPAA ratings wiki has some clear guidance on content for different ratings.
The thing I find hardest to rate is when there is sex but it isn't very explicit. However, my simplest answer to this is to ONLY write explicit sex, heh. But in general, I think if it's clear sex is taking place but there's only some undressing or light groping with a fade to black or a sort of euphemistic description such as "they found release together", I would think that was probably a PG-13. I would say in art this was the equivalent of bodies under the bedclothes. If the sex is described more clearly, eg some mention of what act occurred, some mention of hard cocks, etc, I would say it's an R. In art I would imagine the bedcovers are now off, and you can tell what's occurring, but not explicitly see erect cocks or vaginas or arseholes or a blow job or cunnilingus or whatever is happening. If however there's a description of a cock or a vagina (rather than a brief mention), a description of ejaculation, a description of penetration, or rimming, or oral sex, or whatever sex act, and these contain any details, I would say that's a NC-17. In art, if you can SEE erect penises, or vaginas, or penetration, or ejaculation, or oral sex, etc, and it's not obscured by a hand or a body position or artful hair placement etc, I think that's NC-17.
So, to give an example using wanking (I wrote these examples for this purpose, please don't point and laugh :D):
Harry felt quite hot and bothered after seeing Malfoy's pale arse in the showers. When he got into bed that night, he didn't keep his hands above the covers.
In my opinion, that is PG-13. We all know what's happening, but nothing is explicitly described. Draco is naked, but it's not described in detail and he's showering, not in a sexual situation. However:
Harry's trousers suddenly seemed far too tight as he watched Malfoy smooth soap lovingly over the curves of his arse. Back in the dorm, Harry Summoned lube and quickly brought himself off.
I would say that's an R. There's an erection now, Malfoy's nudity is more sexually-oriented, and there's no doubt that Harry masturbates.
PURELY FOR SCIENCE, I wrote an NC-17 version as well.
Harry's cock throbbed, trapped against the zip of his jeans as he watched Malfoy run a soapy finger along the cleft of his arse. That night, lights out couldn't come soon enough. Harry let out a low groan of pleasure as his slick hand grasped the hot length of his cock, stroking slow and firm until he came to a juddering climax all over the sheets.
I feel FAIRLY SURE that's NC-17. But maybe I should continue? Just to be sure. ;)
Those are my opinions. What do you think? Is the MPAA guide useful? And what on earth should happen if there's a kink or other taboo acts involved? Does that change the rating? I look forward to hearing your thoughts, even if you don't agree with me.
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Date: 2016-04-30 01:59 pm (UTC)But yeah this is interesting! I am generally with you on how you define the ratings, I think; but yes it is so nuanced.
This is what I tend to do (whether or not it's a good way to rate Idk lol!) (also this is just sexual rating not like, how disturbing the content is otherwise, but I think that's what your post focuses on anyways)
G/PG - crushing and love are okay, nothing sexual
PG-13 - kissing is the extent of how sexual it gets
R - mentions of sexual organs but no direct showing or contact
NC-17 - direct contact with or descriptions of sexual organs or activities
BUT WHO REALLY KNOWS?! :D
Oh this does make me think about Tropes and how we require an R min rating. I think I go by the above for that. Maybe we should spell it out in the com rules, maybe that would be more fair for participants? Usually it's just how sexual I feel it is, and its all very subjective.
Wand in a Knot sounds super fun.
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Date: 2016-04-30 07:59 pm (UTC)I mostly agree with you on the ratings, but I think you could have more than kissing in a PG-13 fic. I think you could have some light groping, some undressing (not nudity), etc. Just nothing hot and heavy. I mean, in your examples, there is something in between "just kissing" and "mention of sexual organs", yeah? But I don't know if I am right...
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Date: 2016-04-30 08:01 pm (UTC)I do want to do it :D It sounds so fun!
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Date: 2016-04-30 09:00 pm (UTC)I hope we both get in to WIAK! What pairing do you think you will write for it? Or will you just decide on the day? Part of me feels like writing something completely crazy, LOL. It will probably end up just being some variety of Malfoy with some variety of Potter again, though.
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Date: 2016-04-30 10:51 pm (UTC)I kind of want to write Percy/Hermione.
Are you allowed to write whatever you want or are you given a character, or a ship? Or a kink? Haha I have never seen one of these done before. Maybe I'll go peek at Teen Wolf's for reference.
Which pairs are you inclined to write, you think?
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Date: 2016-05-01 09:25 pm (UTC)I sort of like the idea of writing something completely off the wall, but I'll almost certainly write Draco/Harry or Draco/Albus Severus, I'd think. I guess I'll see what the prompt is and what I'm in the mood for?
Are you a bit nervous, now? I was so excited and now I'm pretty scared!
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Date: 2016-05-01 11:59 pm (UTC)