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I feel like I'm spamming everyone this week, but I need to discuss my overwhelming feels for Remus Lupin. I've been reading Prisoner of Azkaban with my eldest son for a while now (we only get 10 or 15 mins most nights without his brothers, but I love sharing it with him) and I've enjoyed it an awful lot more than I did on the times I've read it alone. I remember a discussion recently on [livejournal.com profile] hp_canon_love about what was your favourite book, and LOADS of people picked POA. I was really surprised, as I actively disliked a lot of things about it.

For instance: Dementors *huge shudder*. They are just WAY TOO SCARY after what's at heart been quite a jolly children's series up til then. They really jarred with me the first time I read POA (read: scared the wiggins out of me), and on rereads I still find them too sinister, depressing and basically about the worst thing I can imagine. And to have 13-year-old Harry having to listen to the sounds of his mother dying every time they come close - UGH. 13 is just nothing; he's so young. I find it all very upsetting.

However, my son J loves it all, doesn't give a shit about the Dementors, and thinks Sirius Black is the best thing since sliced bread (although you'll be pleased to hear Lucius Malfoy is still his favourite :DD). That's my other problem with POA - I don't care that much about Sirius - at least not as much as I am meant to, I don't think. BUT. LUPIN, OMG. He's INCREDIBLE.

I've always liked Lupin, I mean, obviously, he's a very likeable character, but I think I underestimated him until now. He is just SO DECENT. This is a quality that's maybe not that sexy until you are in your 40s. I know I've always been more about the bad boys. But now, suddenly, I've got 3 kids who I need plenty of help supporting, and I'm not very attractive or fertile any more, and my sexual organs are going "HELLOOOOO NICE DECENT MEN, you look good to me. You don't seem like you'll run off just because I've got a saggy arse and the baby's keeping us awake every night.". Suddenly decent men are really what it's all about. (although Lupin DOES run off, silly git, but we'll pass over that for now. At least he comes back).

Lupin is such a fabulous teacher, and he's so saucily laidback and in control of everything. I mean, he takes on the Boggart in DADA, because he thinks Harry's Boggart is going to be Lord Voldemort and freak everyone out. The Boggart, of course, turns into the moon in front of the whole class, thereby giving the biggest clue yet that Lupin's a werewolf, and presumably making him feel quite frightened, and yet he just says 'Riddikulus' "almost lazily." ALMOST LAZILY. Yowzers. Basically I want to throw my knickers at him.

Today, my son and I just got to the Shrieking Shack, and it's so exciting and Lupin is a complete and utter BAMF. But all wrapped up in a cardigan-wearing, nice-decent-bloke package. First of all, he gets it virtually straight away when Sirius says Pettigrew has been hiding as Scabbers. He thought he was coming to save Harry and co. from Black, the evil murderer, but when he sees Pettigrew on the map and finds out he's been a rat for twelve years, he takes about three seconds and then goes "ah, so.... Sirius, you changed places as Secret Keeper and didn't tell me? Pettigrew killed James and Lily and faked his own death? You're completely innocent and you've come to rescue Harry from Pettigrew? Right then, I'll just work that all out without any explanation, and completely take it in my stride, without breaking a sweat."

THEN, when everyone is screaming and threatening to kill each other and getting completely over-excited, Lupin is doing things like saying "Certainly, Hermione," courteously and "Not at all, Padfoot, old friend," casually. I love that JKR abuses adverbs almost as much as me, and what delightful adverbs they are. Everyone else is frothing and capslocking like mad, and Lupin is standing there ROLLING UP HIS SLEEVES. This is what awesomeness looks like, and my underwear just flew off all by itself.

So, is Lupin this incredible in all the other books? How did I miss this?

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Date: 2013-06-04 06:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drarryisgreen
Prisoner of Azkaban was definitely my favourite book when I read it and it still is. It was also the most disappointing movie. Lupin is amazing!

Date: 2013-06-04 06:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] 0idontknow0
Remus is awesome and super sweet and kind and level headed. I imagine the Marauders and he is always reigning them in and keeping them from getting into excess trouble, because Sirius and James were probably about as controllable as Harry and Ron.

Absolutely hated that he died.

Date: 2013-06-04 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] knowmefirst.livejournal.com
I think Remus is the type of character that many don't see. However, in all of the characters of Harry Potter, his the one that no matter whom you put him with in the love department he'll be perfect :D

Or maybe is just me :P

Date: 2013-06-04 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melusinahp.livejournal.com
He's not just amazingly decent, but also amazingly down to earth given the kind of life he leads. He's been a werewolf since he was a kid. Been treated like dirt since he was a kid. And he made such different choices, both internally and externally, than Fenrir. I love Remus.

PoA was definitely one of my favourites of the films and also the one that got me into Harry Potter in the first place.

Date: 2013-06-04 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamlane.livejournal.com
LMAO over this post. You are awesome sauce.

PoA has always and will always be my favorite book, and Lupin has a lot to do with that. (Though Sirius is probably the main reason, followed closely by Hermione bitch-slapping Draco and Oliver Wood sobbing like a baby when they win the Quidditch Cup.)

But yes. Lupin. He's very zen. Or he was right up until Dumbledore was killed, and then I'm not sure what happened to him. Suddenly this decent person was like "OMG SNAPE IS EVIL, HUNT THE MOFO DOWN." And I was like, huh? And then there was the really strange and unsettling confrontation in Grimmauld Place in book 7 (he attacked Harry!), and basically I lost a lot of respect for his character and couldn't figure out what JKR was doing with him, unless he was really that torn up about Sirius's death. Which I consider likely because, even though I'm not a Puppyshipper, dude. That ship has to be canon. It's just gotta be. I consider that scene in the shack Exhibit A.

WOO what a ramble. Anyway. Yes. PoA Lupin is one of my favorite things in the world.

Date: 2013-06-04 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] knowmefirst.livejournal.com
I have read him with Lucius, Severus, Sirius, OC's. So let me know which you wish to read first.

I haven't read any het that includes one of the character of HP universe. But only one het with an OC and it was lovely.

Date: 2013-06-04 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] omi-ohmy.livejournal.com
I shouldn't really be here, as I should be writing smut. They haven't even got their cocks out yet, and here I am getting distracted. Anyway, yes yes yes, Lupin is wonderful. I think he makes the best father figure for Harry is many ways - he has been battered down by life, but is still able to keep going. I like his weary shabbiness, and how underneath it beats the heart of a man good and true.

When I did that 'which HP character would you marry' test thing, it came back as Remus Lupin. :D

Okay, I wasn't here. Back to the smut.

ps You are wonderful. I love your ongoing HP-love. :)

Date: 2013-06-04 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evilgiraff.livejournal.com
Yeah, Remus is gorgeous and lovely, definitely.

Prisoner of Azkaban has always been my favourite book, though I should probably reread the series soon. I think it was the steadily-growing background darkness (as well as engaging characters) that really hooked me in to the series in the first place. I was about sixteen or so when I read the first three for the first time (my grandad gave them to me and said if I liked them he'd buy me the rest of the series, which he duly did as each one came out), and the other books I was reading at the time included things like A Clockwork Orange and Nineteen Eighty-Four, so Potter barely registered as mild peril, to be honest. It was Goblet of Fire and Cedric's death that made me think JKR might have a bit of steel to her - killing off an innocent (though not a well-loved character) was a bit more meaty.

Anyway, so, yes, Sirius has always been my Potter fantasy guy, and PoA is his book - cool! But I agree, Remus is completely wonderful and I like him very much. I think I do go for the nice guy outside of fantasies - my husband is FAR more Remus than Sirius. Although he doesn't wear cardigans. Yet.

Date: 2013-06-04 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamlane.livejournal.com
YES! The climax of that book is one wild ride! I remember the first time I read it, I got this visceral rush at the moment when Harry realizes he had created the patronus that saved them. It's like JKR spent the entire book linking Harry to his past, and at that moment, he sheds that and steps forth victorious in his own right, armed with his father's strength yet entirely his own man. EEEE THE FEELS.

Date: 2013-06-04 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evilgiraff.livejournal.com
YES. THIS. He is a lovely person :-) The others are all too high maintenance. Except possibly Arthur Weasley.

And hurrah for cocks! Remember: meander :D

Date: 2013-06-04 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashindk.livejournal.com
I've always prefered Remus over Sirius. The way he handles the Dementors and the confrontation with Pettigrew is just so amazingly cool and level headed.
The only thing that really scares him enough to get him to make some less than stellar decisions is in DH when he's afraid that he'll be a liability to his wife and baby. And that alone is enough to make me swoon.

Date: 2013-06-04 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] omi-ohmy.livejournal.com
They've got their tops off now. I shall endeavour to meander.:D

And Arthur Weasley could be a bit... boring. Lupin would always be fun. And amzzing in bed, too, I'd guess. I bet HE'D meander...

Date: 2013-06-04 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evilgiraff.livejournal.com
He's only boring because in canon you only ever see him as Ron's dad. I reckon there's more to him than sheds and spark plugs. But yeah, Lupin could well be rather animal in bed...

Date: 2013-06-04 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vix-spes.livejournal.com
Can I just say how much your post made my day?! Snape has been my favourite from the very beginning but Prisoner of Azkaban is probably my favourite book and a big part of that is because of Remus Lupin who then tied as my favourite. I adore Remus/Sirius (it was my very first OTP) because I love the idea of them as Marauders and Remus having to constantly reign Sirius in but then I equally love post-Azkaban fic for those two. I also quite like Remus/Snape which can be quite fun.

Also, this:

ROLLING UP HIS SLEEVES. This is what awesomeness looks like, and my underwear just flew off all by itself.
I'm not ashamed to admit that men who are quietly competent and all unassuming, generally decent blokes that then turn out to be BAMFs have a tendency to make my knickers fly off (Agent Coulson from the Avengers is another one like Lupin)
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